A few days ago, following the Sanctity of Life Ministries fund-raiser her in northern Virgina, I wrote the following about pro-choice Christians:
Across the mainline denominations, as well as parachurch organizations such as the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, you will find nary a person willing to say they are pro-abortion. In fact, applying that label will result in one’s getting heated and emphatic denunciations combined with the claim that as pro-choice Christians they simply ant to see abortion be legal and safe, but also rare.
I was wrong.
The Episcopal Divinity School, a seminary of the Episcopal Church has nominated a new president and dean. She is the Rev. Dr. Katherine Ragsdale, an abortion fanatic. If ever a person could be called “pro-abortion,” it’s Ragsdale. Stand Firm commenter James Manley directs readers to Ragsdale’s sermon blog, and a speech she gave in 2007. She prefaces it by saying,
The Democrats have removed “safe, legal, and rare” language about abortion from the platform. About time!
She then offers a speech that is extraordinary in its assault on unborn children. Among other things, she said:
When a woman wants a child but can’t afford one because she hasn’t the education necessary for a sustainable job, or access to health care, or day care, or adequate food, it is the abysmal priorities of our nation, the lack of social supports, the absence of justice that are the tragedies; the abortion is a blessing.
And when a woman becomes pregnant within a loving, supportive, respectful relationship; has every option open to her; decides she does not wish to bear a child; and has access to a safe, affordable abortion – there is not a tragedy in sight — only blessing. The ability to enjoy God’s good gift of sexuality without compromising one’s education, life’s work, or ability to put to use God’s gifts and call is simply blessing.
These are the two things I want you, please, to remember – abortion is a blessing and our work is not done. Let me hear you say it: abortion is a blessing and our work is not done. Abortion is a blessing and our work is not done. Abortion is a blessing and our work is not done.
This person is not a scholar, but an activist. She is known entirely as a result of her abortion rights advocacy. She is one of the founders of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Rights, and is on the board of directors of NARAL. And now the president of an Episcopal seminary. Those who have chosen her have put their stamp of approval on one of the most extreme pro-abortionists in the country, much less the church.
So I think it is now safe to say that, in fact, there are people in the mainline churches–some of whom are even in prominent positions–who are not pro-choice at all. They are pro-abortion, and according to the ancient standards of the church–standards that go all the way back to the early 2nd century and the Didache–they should be treated as anathema.
(Via Stand Firm.)
UPDATE: Ragsdale’s complee lack of academic credentials and her extremist advocacy of abortion as sacrament of the Religion of Me has lots of folks ecstatic at her appointment. According to the Episcopal Life Online, they include Thomas Shaw, the Bishop of Massachusetts:
“I am thrilled with the appointment of Katharine Ragsdale as the president and dean of EDS. She brings a wealth of small parish ministry to her new position and it is critical that the new president and dean be able to train and form parish priests for the growth of progressive parishes across the country. She brings a wealth of experience, talent and creativity to this new position.”
They also include Dr. Angela Bauer-Levesque, acting (there’s the right word) academic dean:
“I am elated to have the Rev. Dr. Katherine Hancock Ragsdale join EDS as its first woman president and dean. As someone with stature in the church and in the world, she inspires excellence. Her commitments, energy, and clarity, combined with her astute analysis, her collaborative style, and her experience in fundraising will make EDS more boldly live out its purpose of educating lay and ordained leaders for the church and the world, dedicated to work for justice, foster diversity, and seek constructive change.”
Finally, there’s Thomas Ely, Bishop of Vermont:
“The search committee sees in Katherine the right combination of a person of immense faith, demonstrated organizational and team leadership ability, a passion for academic excellence and quality theological education, formidable development skills, and the ability to be a strong, articulate, and inspiring voice for the mission of EDS, both within the Episcopal Church and beyond. From among the many gifted candidates we interviewed, Katherine Ragsdale overwhelmingly stands out as the one best equipped and called to lead EDS into this next exciting and promising chapter of our life and mission.”
Remember: all of this effusive praise for a woman whose only real accomplishment is her unceasing, unqualified, fanatical advocacy of abortion as the be-all and end-all of women’s rights.
March 30, 2009 at 7:36 pm
I think I am going to be ill.
March 31, 2009 at 9:25 am
So the Episcopal Divinity School will have as its new dean and president a High Priestess of the Moloch cult. From what she says on her blog, she is also a lesbian, which actually seems tame compared to her abortion fanaticism.
With some notable exceptions, such as Alan, there is an overlap between gay rights and abortion rights advocates. Gene Robinson is another supporter of abortion on demand.
March 31, 2009 at 9:59 am
How far we have fallen – just so very, very sad.
March 31, 2009 at 11:37 am
This is why the Episcopal Church is dying. Not only is death carrying away the old, but they are willing to slaughter the young. And the difference between the Aztecs and the Episcopal Church is? I am working on it, but all I see is the same result. Empty historic buildings.
March 31, 2009 at 3:25 pm
“With some notable exceptions, such as Alan, there is an overlap between gay rights and abortion rights advocates.”
Thanks. But I’m not the only one. There are several pro-life LGBT groups, the Pro-Life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians, for example is probably one of the largest and best known ones. These groups are likely not on the radar of most pro-life folks because we’re gay and, to be frank, what average pro-lifer is going to care whether or not one of us abominations is pro-life or not? Or even bother to find out? Short-sighted if you ask me, but then everyone has their hang-ups, I suppose.
By the way, there’s also an overlap between gun advocates, death penalty advocates and anti-gay folks. Coincidence?
Correlation doesn’t equal causation, John, even though those correlations might be convenient stereotypes. Now I’m not saying that there is some large but invisible contingent of pro-life LGBT folks out there. But the question is, are people pro-choice *because* they’re LGBorT? Or are they pro-choice because the vast majority of pro-lifers also happen to be the people who are most likely to be the busybodies, fusspots, tattletales and scolds who spend so much of their time looking for new and exciting ways to take away our rights, kick us out of churches, and in general treat us as less than human? Short-sighted, I’d say, but then everyone has their hang-ups, I suppose.
April 2, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Edited by site manager–Resubmit this comment if you wish, and leave out the personal references.
April 3, 2009 at 8:31 am
Wow, David.
You edit one of my comments because you think it’s offensive (even though it was, at the most, only slightly sarcastic), and you keep that one?? A.MAZ.ING.
April 3, 2009 at 8:32 am
(Let’s assume that it’s still up only because you haven’t read your comments recently, eh?)
April 3, 2009 at 8:32 am
On the other hand, maybe it isn’t a bad idea to leave it up. I think it’s worthwhile for people to see what conservative Christians actually think when they’re anonymous.
April 3, 2009 at 8:43 am
Alan: I hadn’t seen it yet. And please, if you object to generalizations about gay Christians, avoid generalizations about conservative Christians, OK?
April 3, 2009 at 10:36 am
That’s fine. I do wish you’d left it up though, but then my view on blog comments is probably a bit more liberal than most bloggers. I think it that sort of comment is indeed symbolic of at least what a fair number of so-called conservative Christians really think, and it’s hardly the first time I’ve seen such comments.
Anyway, it would be interesting to see if the same folks who pile on to condemn my comments here would have done so with the same alacrity and vigor. Frankly, I doubt it, but I would have been happy to have been proved wrong.
April 3, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Alan,
Well, speaking for myself, I haven’t even seen the comment.
John Erthein
Erie, PA
April 3, 2009 at 10:38 pm
What the Rev Dr Ragsdale says make perfect sense if the unborn are not humans. Calling a baby a fetus is one way to avoid scientific and moral reality and is an effective weapon in the battle for peoples minds. Interestingly the keynote speaker at the SLM banquet, which David mentions above, traced for us the role that name calling plays in dehumanizing any group of fellow human beings. The pro-life challenge is to argue the humanity of unborn children(and others)and do that by speaking the truth in love, and not by name calling.
April 4, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Well John, you’re lucky.
Basically, instead of recognizing that both myself and this Nala person believe that abortion is wrong, this Nala person instead decided to use all sorts of disgusting epithets for LGBT people, blah, blah, blah. The usual tripe.
What I found most amusing about it was that it perfectly illustrated exactly what I said above about most so-called conservatives and their attitudes regarding pro-life LGBT people … ie it doesn’t matter how pro-life you are if you’re queer.
April 4, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Alan,
You’ve generally been pleasant to me and I appreciate that, but after reading some of what you’ve posted on your blog recently, I don’t see how real dialog is possible. I think you’re as guilty of gross overgeneralizations and inflammatory, even hateful comments, as people you criticize. So your constant harping on bad language from conservatives is not well taken. You’re a smart guy and I cannot believe you are unaware of how cynical your words appear.
John Erthein
Erie, PA
April 5, 2009 at 5:15 pm
John,
And I’ve always enjoyed our conversation, though we rarely agree on much. You are nearly the only person on your “side” who doesn’t resort to the nasty schoolyard antics of your friends, and I’ve always appreciated that. I’m sorry that you think dialogue is impossible, we’ve been having a lively discussion over on my blog which, I think, demonstrates that you’re wrong about that.
But in any event, if you want to comment on what I’ve written on my blog, I’d suggest out of respect to David, that you do it at my blog. That’s just good blog etiquette.
You’ll see, BTW, that I’ve already addressed your point on my blog in a recent post. But I’d be happy to address it further there if you’d like.
If not, that’s fine too. But if you don’t care enough about whatever your concerns are to discuss them on my blog, then I’m not sure why I should care more about your concerns than you do. If you’re not interested in criticizing me there, I wonder why you’d bother doing it here.
So, if you have something specific you’d like to address, feel free to address it on my blog. Everyone is always welcome to comment on my blog about the things I write there.
April 7, 2009 at 7:03 am
John’s comments were completely fair game. Complaining here about being badly treated by conservatives, and then dishing out the same treatment to conservatives on your own blog, is hypocritical.
April 7, 2009 at 8:04 am
“dishing out the same treatment”
Meh. “Treatment” of “conservatives”? You’ve never bothered to comment once on my blog that I’m aware of, Kate, so you don’t know what you’re talking about. If you can’t be bothered to comment, I don’t see why I should be bothered to take your concerns seriously.
And frankly, if the best response you folks can come up with is “You do it too”, that’s hardly a reasonable excuse, since it admits that you do too. Admitting your own hypocrisy while calling me a hypocrite? Not very persuasive.
(It’s also amusing that you’re both basing this “you do it too” excuse on another comment above, which neither of you never actually read. I did read it, and I don’t actually do it too.)
Go ahead and stop by my blog and actually engage if you think it’s important. If you don’t think it’s important, then I don’t either.
Anyway, I’m pretty sure the point of this post was not about me, but feel free to continue if you’d like.
April 7, 2009 at 10:26 pm
While this bickering has been going on, 24,000 unborn babies been killed in the USA. You can call me anything you want if you will just try to DO something about that.
April 8, 2009 at 7:57 am
Amen, Don. Let’s focus on what’s important!
February 8, 2010 at 9:46 pm
No wonder the Episcopalian Church is rapidly disintegrating when it appoints a radical anti-human life person over its seminary. Imagine the mind of such graduates after Katherine Ragsdale has finished coaching them.
Faithful members, do not complain. You are all responsible for allowing such travesty. Time now to recap history. The founder, the late Henry VIII, was a bad example as he betrayed the title bestowed on him (by the Pope)”Defender of the Faith”, when he set up his own version of Church. After all these years, and many changes, what is left of the Episcopalian Church is now falling apart. Perhaps it is time for those who have been hanging on in hopes of recovery, to return to the roots of Christianity and join many of their Anglican brethren as they make tracks back to Rome and the See of Peter. After all Jesus Christ founded but One Church. United we stand, divided we fall.