The Rev. Janet Edwards, co-moderator of gay advocacy group More Light Presbyterians, has a column in the Washington Post today that illustrates why it is difficult for evangelicals to engage in meaningful discussion of the biblical basis for the church to revise its view of homosexuality. In speaking of the impending defeat of PCUSA Book of Order Amendment 08-B, she cites two examples from the gospels that are supposed to demonstrate that formerly outcast groups can be accepted in ministry:
Scripture tells us over and over again that God calls to service those whom society has named undesirable or less than. One who comes to mind is Matthew, the tax collector, whose labor for the Romans made him unclean and an abomination by the norms of society in Biblical times (Mt. 9.9-13, Mk. 2.13-17, Lk. 5.27-32). When the Pharisees, the religious leaders and power brokers of the times, objected to Jesus calling Matthew to dine with him, Jesus replied that he came to be with people like Matthew, the outcasts. Matthew went on to become one of the twelve disciples and wrote the first book of the New Testament.
This is correct as far as it goes, but clearly avoids the obvious: Matthew, upon following Jesus, left behind his tax collector’s booth, and gave up his career of oppression and theft (Luke 5:28). Is Edwards’ suggesting that thieves who come to Christ and enter the ministry should be allowed to continue to steal from people while preaching the gospel?
Another example is the women who found the tomb empty after Jesus’ crucifixion and ran to tell the disciples (Mt. 28.1, Mk. 16.1, Lk. 24.10, Jn. 20.1). Women in Biblical times were the very last people anyone would have expected to deliver the news upon which our whole faith rests! And yet this story provided the Scriptural evidence that helped the Presbyterian Church (USA) affirm God’s call to women to ordained leadership 50 years ago.
Once again, she evades the obvious: being a woman was not sinful per se. Yes, women occupied an inferior position in the first century world, and yes, the testimony of women regarding the empty tomb is surprising (in fact, it’s one of the best arguments for the truthfulness of the empty tomb story, since it runs so counter to what one would expect). But women don’t have to repent of being female in order to become Christian, much less being ordained.
Each of these leaders gives me hope – [Martin Luther] King, Matthew and the women at the tomb. As history has proven time and again, when God calls the faithful to ministry, eventually our society and our church respond.
I’m not sure what she means here. Maybe she thinks no one black was ever ordained before Martin Luther King. She does say that “King himself is an example of those God has called to ministry throughout the ages despite marginalization by society at the time.,” but again the maginalization of African-Americans was not because their skin color was considered sinful–indeed, it was for far less rational reasons.
To sum up: these biblical examples actually have nothing to do with the argument over ordaining sexually active homosexuals, unless one makes the a priori assumption that homosexual behavior is not sinful. That’s an argument one can make, and Edwards no doubt thinks it’s a settled issue. But the reason that gay ordination continues to be controversial in the PCUSA is because a majority are still unconvinced that homosexual behavior is not sinful. Until that happens, a majority isn’t going to change its mind on the ordination issue.
April 26, 2009 at 5:47 pm
“because a majority are still unconvinced that homosexual behavior is not sinful. Until that happens, a majority isn’t going to change its mind on the ordination issue.”
No question. Fortunately though, more and more people are starting to reconsider their position, as the recent voting has demonstrated. Not, as some would cynically have us believe, because the culture tells them to, the implication being that they’re just dumb, driven sheep, but because they have prayerfully studied Scripture and reconsidered the issue.
Not everyone has, through prayer and study, arrived at that conclusion, but more and more people are doing so. It just takes time. And from the looks of things next time will be the right time.
April 27, 2009 at 7:44 am
The numbers from our recent vote show no change of mind on the issue of ordination standards. What they DO show is that fewer evangelicals showed up to vote.
What IS relevant from the WaPo article of Edwards is that appeals to emotions from the Left are their only methods. Because reason and Scripture failed, appeals to emotion are all they have left.
April 27, 2009 at 8:28 am
“What they DO show is that fewer evangelicals showed up to vote.”
If your definition is that anyone who voted Yes is not an evangelical any longer, then yes, that’s what the votes show. We don’t actually do exit polling in the PCUSA, so while Toby dismisses appeals to emotion and claims to be reasonable, in fact he has not a single number to back up his hypothesis. What he does have is post hoc reasoning. There were lower turnouts in many presbyteries, but since nearly any hypothesis one wants to invent could explain that, Toby tries to make an appeal to emotion in order to suggest that the poor, downtrodden evangelical minority has given up or gone home.
Regardless of the reasons, if they didn’t care enough to bother to show up to vote then who’s fault is that? The opportunity to vote was there. If they didn’t want to take advantage of it, I’m not going to feel sorry for them, no matter how much Toby tries to pluck the heart strings.
Anyway, since when did appeals to emotion become a bad thing? Love is an emotion and one about which Jesus had plenty to say. And as the votes show, the church is hearing His words more and more.
April 27, 2009 at 8:38 am
What about Jesus’ strong teaching on divorce (that most evangelicals ignore) in Mark 10:1-12 that limit marriage to between a man and a woman? Do Jesus’ own words matter here?
April 27, 2009 at 9:13 am
They clearly don’t matter to the ~50% of married heterosexuals who get divorced, nor the even higher percentages of them who commit adultery.
But I disagree with those folks completely. Divorce? Yup, that’s bad, as you point out, Jesus clearly says so. I’m not divorced it doesn’t apply to me personally, and I know at least 100 times the number of divorced heterosexual folks who are ordained than the number of divorced LGBT folks who are ordained.
So yes divorce is clearly a particular problem for heterosexuals, but we shouldn’t discriminate against them simply because huge numbers of them are unable to keep their marriage vows. I would certainly want to make sure that any divorced person, gay or straight, was thoroughly examined prior to ordination.
April 27, 2009 at 10:34 am
Ben,
Our laxity on divorce is a continuing problem. Even if, somehow, the conservative side “wins” all arguments and votes about homosexuality (which I don’t predict will happen in the PC(USA over time), we will still be a sick denomination because of de-facto antinomianism.
April 27, 2009 at 1:41 pm
“And as the votes show, the church is hearing His words more and more.”
Which ones:
Obviously they hear the ” .. then I shall not condemn you ..”, but forget about the “Go and sin no more” !!
April 27, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Benjamin, et all. You write “What about Jesus’ strong teaching on divorce (that most evangelicals ignore) in Mark 10:1-12 that limit marriage to between a man and a woman? Do Jesus’ own words matter here?”
Well, certainly Jesus limits marriage to a man and a woman, so it seems to me that any fornication, either hetero- or homo-sexual is sinful. Of course, that’s not your point if I understand your comment “that most evangelicals ignore” correctly. If evangelicals allow a divorced person to serve as a TE or RE, why not a person in a unrepentantly homosexual relationship?
First of all, remember the same lesson in Matthew: “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.” Matt 19:9. If you can find a similar exception to the broad proscription against homosexual conduct that is found in both the old and the new Testaments, i.e., “except when the two are in a really close committed relationship”, your argument may hold some water.
April 27, 2009 at 2:16 pm
“but forget about the “Go and sin no more” !!
When you get that one right, you’ll let me know, won’t you? 😉
April 27, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Mac,
You’re right, there is an exception. But in the PC(USA), at least, we do not confine our practice to allowing that exception.
May 6, 2009 at 6:15 pm
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